Any fan of Project Runway and its incredible mentor Tim Gunn will know and likely quote the iconic expression: “Make it work.” But where did it come from and why is it still impactful two decades later?

Gunn joined Living Not So Fabulously hosts David & John Auten-Schneider to share the origins of his famous tagline. The short of it is, “I was mad as hell at this student,” he shared. While the longer story is that he was focused on inspiring a student and imparting a lesson in problem-solving.

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